ahjack3
ahjack3
3 posts
Joined August 2008

Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

Hello All...I have tried absolutely everything suggested in the Help Guides and by tech support and this problem simply will not go away.  Cases (9mm) continue to stick to the powder funnel.  It seems that the powder funnel is too large for the sized cases...is that possible..these things really stick.

Any additional help would be greatly appreciated.  I really want to enjoy using this press, but this issue will not go away.

Thanks ...Aaron

philster100
philster100
7 posts
Joined February 2009

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

I load 9mm all the time and have not run into this problem. Only two things I can think of. Funnel is in right?  Second, powder die set too low? You only need to open the case mouth a little bit to seat the bullet. Other than these I can only think to check to make sure  you have the right funnel for that caliber.
ahjack3
ahjack3
3 posts
Joined August 2008

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

Hey..thanks for the response.  I haven't checked to see if the powder die is set too low.  I didn't even know that was possible. Thanks for the idea.  AHJ
ahjack3
ahjack3
3 posts
Joined August 2008

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

I meant to say that I did not know the powder "funnel" could be set too low..it's early.   The powder/belling die sets the perfect amount of bell in the case.   Still tinkering.......will update later.

afeccia
afeccia
1 post
Joined February 2011

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

I'm having this exact same problem.  The powder funnel sticks firmly inside 80-90% of 9mm cases (WCC, Winchester, FC, Speer and others) and makes the press very difficult to operate when the ram is returning to the idle position.  I'm using Dillon carbide 9mm dies and have confirmed I have the proper funnel.  I have even raised the funnel to the point that I don't have enough belling depth and the cases still stick.

The powder funnel is simply too big for these 9mm cases.  Mine also has scratches running vertically around the circumference of the funnel, possibly due to it's tight fit in cases that were scarred on the inside from previous firings.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.  Not sure what would fix this beside just grinding the funnel down.
dillon
Administrator
dillon
3,222 posts
Joined July 2007

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

It is common for new, once-fired and sonicly-cleaned brass to stick to the funnel. Until the brass has been internally smoothed from firing, plus the carbon-coating lubricates, preventing the sticking. If loading new brass in particular, use a scotchbrite pad or steel wool to wipe off the funnel every 25-35 cases.
philipi0
philipi0
1 post
Joined June 2011

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

i polished my powder funnel and fit it to sized cases.checked powder throw and bell and they remained the same.my press is as smooth as butter now.if you don't know how, send it to machine shop.end up removing .003 of an inch on all of my funnels.yep had that problem for over a year and i was really frustrated and almost bought rcbs pro2000 but not anymore.just shot my reloaded40 s&w with polished funnels and no single malfunction.just to let everybody know that i'm not responsible to this modification if it doesn't work but this what fix my problem.
Dawgvet98
Dawgvet98
1 post
Joined March 2012

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

I'm having the same problem with all 45 acp brass. New, once fired, fired god knows ow many times. Bought a new 650 and new dies. I was pissed as it never happened with my 550 I've had for 20 years. Soooo..I pulled the powder/belling insert out of the old dies and it is made entirely different than the new E powder funnel. As well the old die is .0035 smaller in diameter than the new. Maybe cost saving? different caliber uses? I dunno, but the old powder/belling die doesn't do it. I guess I'll either swap the funnel between presses or pay a machine shop to fix what wasn't broken on the older dies. The Dillon fix that I should take my powder die apart and clean it every 50 rounds or so negates the purpose of a progressive press.
sutton57
sutton57
2 posts
Joined October 2011

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

This is happening to me with 9mm brass in my XL 650. There are no deposits on the bell part of the die, and my brass has been previously fired. I use carbide dies and do not lube pistol brass. I try to pick up just my own brass at the range but have little doubt that sometimes others' brass gets mixed in.

I noticed today that the brass that sticks isn't belled as much as brass that doesn't. I speculate that the sticking brass could have work-hardened case mouths that spring back during and after belling. I started segregating this brass and will discard it after firing.

Has anyone else seen the same thing?
Sqvishy
Sqvishy
1 post
Joined February 2016

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

I recently picked up a 550b and set it up for 357 and loaded a few hundred cartridges with absolutely no issues. Then when i got comfortable i bought a 45acp conversion kit and dies amd right out of the box it has been a miriad of issues. It started with the powder funnel redusing to release my casings. Then when it finally released some times it would bounce my next primer crooked and mash it in the primer pocket. And then when that wasnt enough they now make an unnerving pop when they are leaving the taper die. I gotta put in a call monday and see what they have to say about all this.
dmccord
dmccord
66 posts
Joined July 2015

RE: Cases Sticking to Powder Funnel

This is not my video but it is one I found on You Tube that does a great job of explaining why this happens and how to prevent it.

https://youtu.be/G5rSj9a1l78