Hobble Creek
Hobble Creek
1 post
Joined February 2018

Hints on 38-40 and/or 44-40 reloading

Voraciously reading about CASS matches and I think i'm going to "jump". Thinking 38-40 or 44-40 would be a lot of fun but i've read enough to know their are some potential problems with either caliber in an 1873 rifle.

1. Lower pressure 45 Colt rounds might not seal the chamber resulting in blowback thus the benefit of "shouldered" rounds (38-40, 44-40) sealing the chamber. Have you found modern, Starline, brass to exhibit that same issue since their necks are thicker?

2. 38-40 and 44-40 brass can have a tendancy to crush while in a die/press if certain precautions are not taken. What are those precautions?

3. Any tricks with a Dillon 550/650 when loading either of these rounds; or 44 Special/45 Colt, for that matter?

Off topic....sort of...

Any 38-40 Winchester 1873 replicas out there? Same for any SAA revolvers? Would prefer to buy something cheaper rather than a 100+ yr old collectible that demands a premium collectors fee.

Thanks,

Alan
Bucolic_Buffalo
Bucolic_Buffalo
64 posts
Joined June 2016

RE: Hints on 38-40 and/or 44-40 reloading

I don't have a clue what the rules specify. But if you are looking for smaller case capacity. For .45 Colt use .45 Cowboy Special. It's a .45 Colt size rim on a .45 ACP length case. Made by Starline. For .44 Special use .44 Russian. Having said that. I know that you will have to jump through a couple minor hoops to load them on a progressive press. You may have to use the wrong seating stem shape in a seat die to gain the length necessary to fully seat. The Dillon just flip around and one is deeper than the other. And almost certainly for crimping you will have to find something other than a Dillon .44 Special/.44 Mag die. I got an RCBS Cowboy die to crimp .44 Russian. I tracked down a Redding .45AR that actually crimps for the .45 Cowboy special. I have no experience with them in lever action rifles. But maybe someone else does.
Bucolic_Buffalo
Bucolic_Buffalo
64 posts
Joined June 2016

RE: Hints on 38-40 and/or 44-40 reloading

An addition to the info on loading for the .45 Cowboy Special. Use the Casefeed Adapter for .45ACP. The Casefeed Arm Bushing for .45 Colt is fine. The rimmed cases will drop though the Casefeed Adapter no problem.

What happens when using a .45 Colt Casefeed Adapter is, the shorter cases of the .45 Cowboy Special might pop out when dropping, because there is a larger opening.
walterlaich
walterlaich
49 posts
Joined March 2008

RE: Hints on 38-40 and/or 44-40 reloading

be sure you find a rifle that will shoot 45 Sp

I know of no current commercial ones on the market

getting a rifle modified to shoot them will run you a bit of cash. Can be done but it will add to the cost of the fun and games.

walt
aka cheyenne ranger (SASS)