trentanson
trentanson
3 posts
Joined August 2018

Dillon xl650 Lemon

I've been reloading for about 2 years now. And, I don't know if anybody else has the same problems we're having, but I'm PISSED! As much money I've spent on this press and all the other components to reload about 5 different calibers... this thing is a piece of Sh*%!!!! The baseplate comes loose, the powder charges are off, it doesn't synchronize right when indexing, it spills powder all over the place, the powder charger rod comes loose, spilled powder jams up the baseplate, the case feeder broke after about 1000 rounds and now i have use it manually, the funnel that feeds the ejected cartridges bends and doesn't allow indexing.... I could probably go on and mention a few more things, but I think you guys get the point.
On top of that, after all of this, when I called in to Dillon for replacement parts I got attitude from the guys that were there.
I don't know if we just got a lemon, or if others have the same problems we have. I can load about 50 rounds before having to tinker with the machine in one way or another. I've also had so many parts break on this thing it seems like we're receiving dillon parts about once a week.
Next time I have to go to Dillon for something (which I'm guessing will be soon), I'm just gonna bring this stupid thing back and say, I'm gonna go get an RCBS!
I would have a different attitude toward this whole thing if i got better customer service. But it seems like when I call with a problem I get a jerk on the phone. And, when I go in to buy something, I get the nicest most helpful people in the world that are great. Huh..... I wonder why that is?????!?!?!?!?
dillon
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dillon
3,222 posts
Joined July 2007

RE: Dillon xl650 Lemon

Trent,
My apologies for not responding earlier. I simply failed to see your post. I looked up your repair part history, and it appears you've had some indexing issues. On the case feed, check the microswitch and see if the lever is stuck. It could also be that the microswitch has died. You are welcome to bring the machine to our retail store and drop it off for a day, so we can go through it and address all of your concerns. You are also encouraged to phone me at Dillon. 480-948-8009, ext 5124.
We sent you a variety of parts on August 22nd. Did they correct your problem?
Currently
Currently
21 posts
Joined September 2014

RE: Dillon xl650 Lemon

Do you have anyone in your area that uses a 650 that can come over and look at your setup?

Most of the issues mentioned are adjustment related.

I swallowed my pride and bought the Dillon DVD on the 650 and watch it periodically to catch things I may overlook. It really is a smooth running press once set up properly.
StrangerDanger
StrangerDanger
1 post
Joined October 2008

RE: Dillon xl650 Lemon

I’ve found the 650 to require a lot of maintenance to keep running right. I have dies set to resize and deprime brass fresh from the tumbler. You must wipe away as much dust from the cases as possible to minimize how much contamination you’ll be introducing in to the press. As you’re depriming hundreds or even thousands of cases, the machine starts to perform sluggishly. The main culprit is the indexing ring. It has to be cleaned and greased or it will cause you endless grief.

You’ll notice under the shell plate that dirt and debris are collecting under there. This needs to be wiped out

You need to learn your adjustments with the shell drop system. The rod that cams the shell slide must be adjusted to your specific caliber you’re loading. There is also a set screw that preloads the case feed.

You need to be certain your platform is mounted properly to the shaft. It’s easy for the shell loader to get in the way and apply uneven pressure to the platform and cause the platform to lean. This is the most common reason the shell loader hits the sheet metal completed bullet chute. Make sure the chute is seated up against the frame of the press to provide as much clearance as possible. If the chute is bent from being squished by the platform, you can bend it back the correct orientation or get a replacement from Dillion.

Treat the press like a firearm. Clean it every time you use it. Have spare parts on hand to fix things as they break. Look out for wear items. The camming surfaces will wear. A common problem I have is the shell loading cam wearing a deep groove into the plastic or on the indexer. Either keep replacements on hand or look in to aftermarket solutions that offer a bearing instead of a cam. Think indexer and case feed rod. As dirt gets under the shell plate, your primer feeder is going to pick a lot of that grit up too. Pull the unit off and clean it regularly.

If your system is throwing powder all over the shell plate, this will contribute to grit getting in to the machine. There are aftermarket solutions to reduce this. From bearing kits under the shell plate nut to locator pins that have rubber grommets that touch the cases to keep them from shaking during indexing. I think Reloading Innovations sells a lot of these items. Also installing a Mr. Bulletfeeder in station 3 will effectively reduce the amount of powder being thrown out by half since it’ll have a bullet capping the case as it indexes to the seating die in station 4.

How good of a bench do you have the press mounted to? The more solid it is, the more consistent your powder throws will be. Also, you want to throw 10-20 powder loads after any change or jarring of the powder bottle. Even adding more powder to the bottle should have you throw 10 charges. Then throw ten more and weigh it together.

If your shell plate bolt is loosening, you’re either not setting the set screw or there is something wrong with the set screw. The tip of the set screw is brass, so it can be damaged rather easily.

Use the correct grease and as little as possible. Grease collects dirt and debris. Case lube, dirt from cases, tumbler media and so on will stick to it quick. Use the grease that Dillon sells or avian Enos’ Slide Glide Lite. If your grease is too thick, it might not function well.
Currently
Currently
21 posts
Joined September 2014

RE: Dillon xl650 Lemon

Ever think of writing a manual? <grinning>

Great write up!
Hkmp5
Hkmp5
2 posts
Joined September 2018

RE: Dillon xl650 Lemon

I have loaded thousands of rounds of 9 mm and .357 sig and have had great success. Not any of the issues you have described, only thing I do on occasion is take the air compressor to the shell plate area and blow off some dust.

it could possible be the powder that you use some meter much better then others I have been using aa#7 and 9 . I really couldn't be happier with the machine. if I had to guess you have many setting that are just not correct , I would stick to one caliber and try and perfect it. then get a complete change over kit so you dont have to mess with any of the settings.

another thing that could be an issue is the mounting if the loader, is not on a rock solid mount the constant slight movement could make a difference. I would send it in to them and see if they can make it sing.