dillon
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dillon
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Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

Many current and potential customers are asking about the differences between Dillon's XL650 and the nw XL750.
The XL750 has a simplified linear priming system. It only requires the removal of two nuts to detach and change sizes on the primer feed system. Like the XL650, the 750 deprimes in station 1 and primes in station 2, minimizing any chance that spent primer residue could interfere with priming.
The shellplate indexing mechanism has been completely redesigned, so the shellplate turns more smoothly, decreasing cases wobble. The index pawl has been relocated on the ring indexer and the spring direction reversed. This makes it more difficult to accidently break the ring indexer. The index block now has a roller, which also smoothes out indexing.
Additionally, the index block incorporates a spring-loaded overtravel stop, which significantly increases the life of springs on the machine.
All caliber conversion kits, toolheads and most parts interchange freely between the XL750 and the XL650. Parts that are unique to the XL650 will remain in full production.
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Cleo
Cleo
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Joined December 2018

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

Any information on when the new style index block, with the roller and overtravel stop, for the XL650 will be available and cost? Also the stripped version of the XL750. Never had any issues with my XL650 however if Dillon saw fit to redesign, I'm sure it's an improvement. Keep up the great work!
dillon
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dillon
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Joined July 2007

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

We expect to have the XL650 index blocks available before the end of the year. It will probably be at least a couple of months before we start selling stripped XL750s
marcolelectro
marcolelectro
6 posts
Joined July 2009

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

Excuse me, but you told me for years the XL650 was perfect !!!

May be was I right and it was not, may be new blood (or disparition of some old blood) did good to your company...

Well, just consider I recovered serenity in reloading since I sold my XL650. I do feel better and I do reload better.

Wish you the best luck with your XL750 but it will be without me anyway!
Mmkbeav@gmail.com
Mmkbeav@gmail.com
1 post
Joined January 2019

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

I love my XL650 and have absolutely zero issues with it. I will look into the upgrades but at this time I have no reason to replace my reliable XL650.
gregoryhcain
gregoryhcain
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Joined May 2019

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

I own a 650 and at this time I am very pleased with its operation. Right now I can turn out hundreds of 9 mm rounds with ease. Of course there was a learning curve like with any machine. I did have some temporary primer feeding problems when my primer seater had become losened and went unnoticed. This caused a few jams until I found the trouble. Now I check it every time before starting a run and have had no problems since. As for running smooth, I have installed numerous aftermarket upgrades recommended by the blogs with several roller cam part adaptations at various friction points. With these relatively inexpensive add on's my 650 runs smooth as silk. I am wondering if a 750 would run as smooth as my aftermarket modified 650??? I am sure there are lots of 650 owners out there that upgraded their 650's with these clever add on's. I will be following the blogs to see if a new 750 can equal or outperform a "tricked out" 650; and if not how long will it take the aftermarket developers to catch it up or pass it???
GWN
GWN
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Joined November 2014

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

I have used a 650 for years loading for competition and probably have better than 300,000 rounds of 9mm through it with no issues. Great machine. Interesting to hear about the 750 as I was going to do a refurb on mine, I am going to wait for the upgrade parts and upgrade my current machine.

Thanks for a great machine Dillon.
990172
990172
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Joined December 2007

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

Is the stripped version of the XL750, that does not include a conversion kit, toolhead, powder measure, handle, and case feed post available yet?
Lowend15
Lowend15
1 post
Joined February 2018

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

I am very interested in the stripped XL750 - is this an option yet?
DillonFan@urhen.com
DillonFan@urhen.c...
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Joined February 2020

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

I sold my 650 for a fair price & purchased a 750. Even though I haven't loaded many rounds I'm sure I made the right decision. I don't like the way the 650 spits out primers with every pull of the lever. Even with the primer cut off thingie, I missed some primers spilling down the ramp. That said, my 650 worked well for many years.

I prefer the 750 priming system and if for any reason a shell is not on the plate the primer just remains in position until it's time to seat it, very simple. The roller & spring do-hickey on the left side are good to have too. Almost like a tricked up 650.

My theory was that selling the 650 and purchasing a 750 wouldn't be much different, in price, to purchasing the upgrade kit. Who knows when the upgrade kit will be available? I like my 750 and am glad I traded up to it and I have it to use right now.
gotarmor@gmail.com
gotarmor@gmail.co...
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Joined March 2021

RE: Differences beween the XL750 and the XL650

So, after holding for 45 minutes today trying to order these, the nice rep I got a Dillon said there is no such thing as the 650 indexing upgrade kit or a stripped 750. Were these options scrapped, or just delayed? I'd really like to get my hands on these...(or at least get my order placed and get in queue).
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