richard44mag
richard44mag
1 post
Joined April 2010

9mm shell plate

I started reloading 9mm ammo recently.  It seems to me that the cases are too loose in the shell  holder. The application sheet indicated that 9mm and 40 cal use the the same shell holder. The 40 cal seems larger than the 9mm and fits perfectly in the shell plate.. Am I missing something here.   Thanks
dillon
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dillon
3,222 posts
Joined July 2007

RE: 9mm shell plate

9mm and 40 S&W indeed do use the same #5 shellplate. However, the brass locator buttons are different. 9mm uses #3 locator buttons, which are larger in diameter than the #2 buttons used for 40 cal.

trailblazenyj
trailblazenyj
2 posts
Joined April 2010

RE: 9mm shell plate

I am having the exact same problem. I have to bring the arm up really close and then attempt to align the case into the die or it will go in at an angle and ruin the case. At that speed I could have just bought a single stage.

I was convinced I had the wrong shell plate but it is a #5. I've adjusted the little spring about a million times. I also have to stop and manually align station 3 about 25% of the time or the bullet hits at an angle and drives it really far into the case.

Thoughts?
trailblazenyj
trailblazenyj
2 posts
Joined April 2010

RE: 9mm shell plate

I am having the exact same problem. I have to bring the arm up really close and then attempt to align the case into the die or it will go in at an angle and ruin the case. At that speed I could have just bought a single stage.

I was convinced I had the wrong shell plate but it is a #5. I've adjusted the little spring about a million times. I also have to stop and manually align station 3 about 25% of the time or the bullet hits at an angle and drives it really far into the case.

Thoughts?
richard442
richard442
1 post
Joined January 2010

RE: 9mm shell plate

Thanks for the replys to my question. I have finally gotten the knack for loading the 9mm ammo.. It took several hundred rounds..I can make 100 rounds without damaging the brass or misseating the bullets. It took a more methodical approach checking powder funnel on each load and guiding the bullet into the die. Actually have gotten fairly fast at this. I have three dillon loaders, because I hate to change calibers once I get one really right. All are really great and turn out a lot of high quality ammo.Thanks again Richard
Johnhod
Johnhod
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Joined March 2010

RE: 9mm shell plate

Well here it is nearly the end of 2018. Seems nothing has changed. I've loaded 38sp, 45acp, 30-30, 357mag since 06 on my 550. Without issue. Now I've got 9mm. Shell plate #5 and #3 Pins. What a POS. The brass rocks and cants at an angle it's so loose. Yes I've got the spring finally set right so I don't crunch primers when the brass leans at an angle. But what can you do with the powder station? I'm crunching 1 to 2 brass out of 10 if I try to load at even a modest pace. The brass cants at an angle and crunch. I have a stiff neck from trying to eyeball every powder drop. Sorry Dillon but this is total crap. And don't tell me a Square Deal is the answer unless you're prepared to send me one. I'm loading 500 at a time and moving to 1000. I can't do that without trashing brass on the 550. So lucky I have an auto-index Lee! Time Dillon got this sorted. Issue a FREE 9mm calibre conversion kit replacement to all current owners of 9mm kits - one that will actually do the job. Please!
jforwel
jforwel
76 posts
Joined November 2007

RE: 9mm shell plate

I don't get it, I have loaded thousands of 9mm using a #5 shell plate and #3 buttons on a 550 and have never had a problem.
dillon
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dillon
3,222 posts
Joined July 2007

RE: 9mm shell plate

Probably your shellplate bolt is a bit too loose. To test, push down on the edge of the shellplate between stations 2 and 3. If it feels springy, then the shellplate bolt needs to be slightly tighter.
It also helps if you tighten the die lock rings with a case in the die, and at station 2, pull the handle down so the measure is activated. Also, always have a fired case in station 1 when adjusting the other dies. This ensures the same upward toolhead pressure when adjusting the dies as you will have while reloading.
F5guy
F5guy
1 post
Joined February 2013

RE: 9mm shell plate

had the same issue when re-assembling. Turns out the bolt holding everything down was not all the way down. Push the shell plate down and you'll find some play, push that down when you tighten sill be all set.