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I have a small niggly issue with my XL650
Im loading 9mm's with 3.6 grns of powder which is almost a full load (New Gun)
when the shell plate indexes a small amount of powder flicks out of the cases in station 3 and 4
not enough to cause inconsistent loads (only 1 or 2 flakes)
But it does make a Mess when loading 200~300 rnds.
is there a way to slow down the final part of indexing to eliminate this.
If i slow down the handle movement it has no effect on the shell plate at the end of travel
what i have been doing is placing projectile in station 3 as shell plate is lowering to manually stop the shell plate fast travel and powder issue but its slowing down my loading time
any input would be appreciated
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Posted by: dillon
Posted on: 2011-09-27 at 08:04:32 AM
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It sounds like the shellplate bolt needs to be a bit tighter. To check, push down on the edge of the shellplate at station 4. If it feels springy, then tighten the bolt a bit more. If you lightly grease the underside of the shellplate bolt, then you can run it tighter. If the problem persists, you can cut off 1/2 coil from the bottom of the detent ball spring as well.
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Posted by: Aussie-66
Posted on: 2011-09-27 at 03:45:04 PM
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Posted by: jonking99
Posted on: 2011-09-29 at 03:58:41 AM
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Hi Aussie, I have two new 650s doing the same thing. I called dillon and they know its an issue. The told me to try cutting of one coil on the spring that controls the detent ball under the shell plate. I found that the tighter the shell plate bolt the better, I also put a sring in that had more coils. It still does it. I just tighten the best I can without braking the indexing plastic ring and put a bullet on top of the case before the detent ball makes the snap. This helps alot. They know of this and why they have not fixed it I don't know.
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Posted by: Aussie-66
Posted on: 2011-09-29 at 05:53:05 AM
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greaseing heavily as suggested seems to work
i loaded 250 rnds and seemed a lot better.
cahnged to .3576 mag so when i change back ill keep a eye on it.
my press has only loaded about 3,000rnds so maybe it will get better.
Its not a real dram just causes some Mess
i loaded 250 rnds and seemed a lot better.
cahnged to .3576 mag so when i change back ill keep a eye on it.
my press has only loaded about 3,000rnds so maybe it will get better.
Its not a real dram just causes some Mess
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Posted by: MKT
Posted on: 2011-09-30 at 11:48:32 PM
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I had the same issue when I first set up my 650 loading 9mm with 4.5 grains VV N320. Lots of powder splash and very inconsistent loads. A search on these boards revealed the trim the detent ball spring fix. I carefully removed 1/2 coil and tried again, still had splash so I cut another 1/2 coil. Tried that and had only a little splash so I cut 1/4 coil and it runs smooth with no splash now. I also kept the shell plate snugged down and backed off just enough to allow it to turn so my splash was not from a loose shell plate. After trimming the spring I have loaded about 3,000 9mm rounds and have 3,000 more to load in the near future.
As the shell plate turns and the detent ball pops up it brings the plate to a rapid stop which causes the splash of powder, ot least that is how it appeared to me.
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Posted by: admin3
Posted on: 2011-12-04 at 04:42:38 PM
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So what does that make the approximate spring length after trim?
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Posted by: MKT
Posted on: 2011-12-23 at 07:24:10 PM
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admin3,
Couldn't tell you what the length is, but I will try to remember to measure the spring next time I have the shell plate off. If I get to the range tomorrow I may just be doing a shell plate switch to restock what I use.
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Posted by: Xdmreg
Posted on: 2012-01-27 at 07:02:51 PM
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What I do is simply have my left thumb on the shell plate and I slow the shell plate down once the shell plate advances to control the shell plate slap. I have a bullet being held with my index and middle finger and the thumb slowing down the shellplate. It greatly reduces powder spillage.
