Case Feeding Issues
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By anm2_man
Published on: 2009-06-15 at 11:41 AM |
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The problem I'm having is in case feeding. In step 2, the cases feed just fine - never a problem. But in step 2, any case that is staged in the plate oriented with bottom first, the case almost never falls into the tube by itself. If the case is oriented where the mouth of the case is first, it always falls.
Since all of these cases were feed just fine before I trimmed them, Trimming must be the issue the second time.
I'm looking for suggestions.
Thx Roger
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Posted by: dillon
Posted on: 2009-06-16 at 09:14:12 AM
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Posted by: anm2_man
Posted on: 2009-06-16 at 10:42:04 AM
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Dillon
Yes there is a sheet metal cuff.
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Posted by: dillon
Posted on: 2009-06-16 at 03:11:27 PM
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Have you tried it at low speed?
How much brass are you putting in the case feed bowl?
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Posted by: anm2_man
Posted on: 2009-06-17 at 01:54:44 PM
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I've tried both speed's, with and without the spacer and there is no difference after they have been trimmed.
As far as quantity goes, again I've tried alot (80+) and also have tried much less (25+).
I was thinking of grinding the inside edge of the shell plate. Looking at it from the edge it would be some thing like this.
Before
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After
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So this way the neck of the cartidge will only touch on a small portion of the edge of the slot.
I just don't want to destroy my shell plate and have to buy another one.
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Posted by: anm2_man
Posted on: 2009-06-17 at 02:25:49 PM
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Ok - here is a edge view of the case plate.
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Posted by: dillon
Posted on: 2009-06-18 at 10:04:08 AM
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Is the case mouth actually impaling itself onto the case feed plate?
Do not use a washer with the rifle plate, that is solely for the pistol plates.
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Posted by: anm2_man
Posted on: 2009-06-18 at 02:24:26 PM
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Yes - looks like they are mpaling their selves. As they go buy you can manually push on them and they will fall. It does take some pressure to get them to fall.
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Posted by: dillon
Posted on: 2009-06-18 at 04:06:02 PM
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I just checked, and if you have a way to cut them, I can send you a few of the sheet-metal casefeed port cuffs to press over the edge of the notch on the case feed plate. Use a dremel tool with a cutoff disc or a hacksaw to trim them after pressing them on. Their design has a small lip that locks the cuf onto the surface they are pressed onto. This would not have to be permanent, as they are removable if they don't cure the problem.
Send an e-mail to garyk@dillonprecision.com with your name and address, I will mail a few to you to try.
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Posted by: anm2_man
Posted on: 2009-06-19 at 01:17:59 PM
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Sounds like a good idea. Email on the way.
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Posted by: anm2_man
Posted on: 2009-06-22 at 02:22:13 PM
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Just wanted to post a response to the suggested fix. First off I only did one slot. "It does work". Every round that was in that slot fell easily. The down side is, this is not a solution. First off it thickness of the clip is at least 1/8" to small. When you try to push it on, it buckles the trailing legs so it can't hold. After pounding, straighting and re-bending, I got one that fits ok. but It needed to be secured, since it would not sit there by itself. So I did small rivet to hold it in place. Lastly, because you have a circle and the right angles are not aligned to circle, alot of cutting and trimming & re-bending is required.
I also made a brass face to the slot edge, and it worked ok. At least it was easier than the Stainless.
After looking closely at each of the slots, there were numerous nicks, cuts and scratches in the slot ends. This plate has been in use for 1,000's of rounds. Maybe its worn out ? But in my estimation, it never fed rounds on a reliable basis. Heavily lubed rounds get stuck to the "Flat" and won't fall (Unless they are touched). I fixed that problem so the rounds now fall. All I know is that if a round has been trimmed, most of those rounds want to stick on the slot end.
Summary: The fix works but to hard to implement. I may just wrap the slot ends in brass, its easier to work with and does function.


























